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National Conference Championship Game

By The Hitman
10/29/2015 1:25 pm
Wow! Niiice game Chicago. Good luck against Denver.

Is there something wrong with the American conference where Denver is just naturally in the league title game? Should something be reported in the Bugs forum?

Re: National Conference Championship Game

By WarEagle
10/29/2015 5:39 pm
Ha!

This is usually the game where my team falls apart. Also, I'm not sure I've ever been able to stop Ares.

Good luck Chicago. I hope it's a close game.

Re: National Conference Championship Game

By Ares
10/29/2015 5:44 pm
That was a brutal and tense game, Hitman.

Good luck once again Denver. Hope it's a good match, without too much RNG shenanigans deciding things.

Re: National Conference Championship Game

By ArrylT
10/30/2015 2:25 am
Meh - this is further proof that this league is broken. I suppose I will have to cheer for Denver because that team has been less involved in shady trading and taking candy from rookie owners. Not that I blame either team - todays culture is all about win at every cost and screw fair play.

In any case I do not feel that either owner can in good conscience say they earned the Championship - won it sure - but when one playoff team beats another team 72-13 and both teams in the championship have such ridiculous RS/RA differentials what point is there to it? Just have Denver, Chicago, New England & I guess SD play each other for the entire season.

Otherwise big deal. Super Team A beat Super Team B after both teams dominated teams with Junior College level talents all season. And I won all my tennis matches against owners with 1 arm tied behind their back & one eye closed - I guess that prepares me for Wimbleton as much as this simulates real NFL.

For being advertised as a comprehensive football management simulator, it is still very far from being realistic. The 2007 Patriots, who put up probably the best statistical season of the modern era, still gave up more points, and scored less than multiple teams do here on a regular basis.

So kudos in advance to whomever wins the fluky 1 game matchup between 2 Madden All Star teams that never would exist in real life. ;-)
Last edited at 10/30/2015 2:27 am

Re: National Conference Championship Game

By WarEagle
10/30/2015 8:58 am
As far as I am aware, nobody in this league built their team in a manner that could not have been done by every other team. I know I have not.

I would also like to think that I have not done anything that would be considered underhanded, or poor sportsmanship.

That said, it is true that I have now made the championship game in 5 straight seasons, but two of those were as a wild card team. My team is definitely not unbeatable. I lost 4 games this season, and will most likely lose to Chicago again.

However, if I do happen to win, I will most certainly be proud of the victory/championship.

I do not feel bad whatsoever that my team is better than some others. I worked to get it that way. I do understand that it is harder to build a great team if you were not here for the allocation draft, but I don't feel the need to apologize because I was.

If you keep working at it and become good at gameplanning, I'm sure you'll come to realize that you can have a chance against the best teams even when you don't have quite the roster they do.

Re: National Conference Championship Game

By ArrylT
10/30/2015 9:50 am
Thank you for your well thought out, reasoned & considerate response. I certainly could have worded what I said better, but unfortunately in the end it would not change what I currently believe.

I will certainly agree that owners like yourself put in plenty of effort, and I should in no way disparage that, so for that I do apologize, but at the same time I do feel that the win here is sort of pointless. Obviously not every team can be good - and there will always be stronger owners & teams - but the difference here between the best teams and the weak ones is wider than the gulf of mexico and that is obvious in the scoring & standings.

I have no plans to quit - and maybe I will feel differently in 2 seasons when I become the 10-6 Seattle - but again Seattle lost 72-13. If there is that much difference between playoff teams, what challenge is it truly to win the majority of games by scores of 80-20 and then romp through the playoffs as well. Ah well there is still merit in doing a hopeless task. ;-)

I have played sports on both dominant and average teams, and I can say with 100% conviction that the team that I won a championship with after starting off 0-4, and won the title in overtime 3-2 was a lot more rewarding than the season I was on a team that dominated (went undefeated) and then won the championship 6-2 (although yes every championship is enjoyable as winning is always more fun than losing).

In the end I truly wish there was some means to level the playing field more - WITHOUT taking away any of the hard earned efforts of owners like yourself - but I just do not see it happening any time soon. It would be different if this was a best of 3/5 or best of 7 and say Chicago beat you 4 games to 2. But when the majority of games are lopsided affairs it is very hard to take the legitimacy of the title seriously.

I will also say that if you win, your team definitely had the harder road through the playoffs. You did beat SD after losing 2 games in the season, and that alone is a worthy accomplishment.

Re: National Conference Championship Game

By Ares
10/31/2015 2:40 pm
ArrylT wrote:
Meh - this is further proof that this league is broken. I suppose I will have to cheer for Denver because that team has been less involved in shady trading and taking candy from rookie owners. Not that I blame either team - todays culture is all about win at every cost and screw fair play.


Please provide any evidence that this has happened. Good luck, because it hasn't. Neither I nor WarEagle engaged in any kind of dodgy behavior to get where we are. We're here because we understand football, the core mechanics of this particular game, and were here and active for the allocation draft. That's it.

I can understand frustration at the total lack of balance created by the fact that the sim currently enables active and strategic players to amass wild amounts of 'wealth', but that in no way should empower you to throw out those kind of childish and baseless accusations. The integrity of the game is incredibly important to me, and I'd get no enjoyment from it if I won through any means or methods that diminished it.

For what it's worth, I don't like the imbalance either (why not check out the thread I created on resolving exactly this issue), but it is one we both earned, like it or not, because we had access to nothing more than what anyone else who joined at the start of the league had. That said, a good user who understands the game can win with practically any squad. I did it in an established league in L2, and Detroit Leo just did it even more impressively in L10.

Re: National Conference Championship Game

By ArrylT
10/31/2015 3:38 pm
You are of course entitled to deny that - as is your right - but any owner who has seen any of the trades you have proposed and those that have gone through know otherwise. You can claim what you wish but your actions speak louder than words and those trades are as shady as they get.

Re: National Conference Championship Game

By ArrylT
10/31/2015 3:43 pm
For example:

Burkhadt & a 4th and a 2nd for the 1.01

P. Jones, 1.32 and a couple of late 2nd for the 1.04

You offer trash for other peoples valuables. While it is not your fault if other owners accept your horrible offers you are still at fault for making them. Enjoy your shady deals - eventually most owners will catch on to the fact that you cannot win fair & square.

Re: National Conference Championship Game

By Ares
10/31/2015 4:30 pm
Edited. This isn't productive, so I'm peacing out.
Last edited at 10/31/2015 4:33 pm